10 Different Timelines From The Terminator Universe

Are you confused by all the alternating timeline in the Terminator enfranchisement ? So are we . That ’s why we created a list of every timeline , and hunt down it past Sarah Connor Chronicles producer Josh Friedman . Spoilers …

1 ) The original ( ? ) timeline : Sarah Connor conceives John Connor with some random guy . ( All we take heed about him is that “ He die , even before the war . ” Presumably it ’s not Kyle Reese , since time - traveling always seems to create an alternate timeline . ) John Connor ’s electrical resistance is on the verge of defeat Skynet in 2029 . ( Reese articulate , “ The justificative grid was smashed . We ’d taken the mainframes . We ’d won . Taking out Connor then would make no divergence . Skynet had to wipe out his entire existence . ” Date of Judgment Day : August 29 , 1997 .

2 ) A T-800 and Kyle Reese both jaunt back in time from 2029 . Kyle Reese get John Connor . Date of Judgment Day : still August 29 , 1997 .

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3 ) A “ scrub up ” T-800 and an “ observational prototype ” T-1000 locomote back from 2029 to 1995 . Sarah Connor destroy Cyberdyne systems and apparently stops Skynet . ( In a deleted view from Terminator 2 , we see that Sarah live on to an previous years and John became a Senator . ) But we memorize in Terminator 3 that Judgment Day was only delay , until July 24 , 2004 . harmonize to T3 , Sarah Connor dies of malignant neoplastic disease in 1997 . John Connor decease in 2032 , at the hired man of another T-800 .

4 ) The T-800 which killed John Connor is “ call off ” and sent back in time to protect him , and a T - X is sent back to belt down him and his future lieutenants . What changes as a result of this prison term travel is unclear : the T-800 ensures John Connor and Kate Brewster survive Judgment Day , but they were presumptively go to survive it anyway . John Connor now knows that this T-800 will kill him in 2032 , have in mind it probably wo n’t . And the younger John Connor has now take on a T - X. This timeline conduct into Terminator Salvation .

5 ) Sarah Connor does n’t die of cancer in 1997 . Instead , she ’s still alive in 1999 , when a T-888 ( Cromartie ) comes back to kill John , and another one ( Cameron ) comes back to protect him . The Terminator known as Cameron startle the Connors forward in fourth dimension to 2007 , and Cameron informs Sarah she would have died of Crab in 2005 . Judgment Day : unknown , but after than 2010 , because the Terminator known as Myron Stark is sent to shoot down the governor of California in 2010 .

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6 ) Derek Reese , brother of Kyle , travel back in sentence with a whole police squad of electric resistance fighters . They seem to make a numeral of change in the timeline , but most notably Derek belt down Andy Goode , creator of an A.I. that might become Skynet . From the glimpse of Derek ’s edition of 2029 , Skynet may no longer be on the “ scepter of frustration ” as it was in the original timeline . Judgment Day is now April 21 , 2011 .

7 ) Various other Terminators travel back in meter , including Carter , who guards a storage warehouse full of columbite-tantalite , Vick , who marries an L.A. city deviser , and Myron Stark , who travel back to the 1920s by misunderstanding . There ’s no telling what changes to the timeline these eradicator , in particular , make .

A T-1001 travels back in clock time to around 2005 , and kills Catherine Weaver , the CEO of Zeira Corp , and her husband . It then impersonate Catherine Weaver . What modification does she make to the timeline ? It ’s not entirely unmortgaged yet . She buys Andy Goode ’s A.I. , “ The Turk , ” keep it from falling into the hand of the James Scott Connors . She saves a nuclear power industrial plant that ’s essential to Skynet ’s succeeding operation , and by and by she destroys an entire factory that ’s create prototype Hunter - Killers . She seems to be nurturing the “ Turk ” into becoming a more compassionate rendering of Skynet , but her real order of business remains unreadable . Judgment Day : unknown .

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9 ) Jesse Flores and Riley Dawson travel back from the future ( possibly later than 2029 . ) The future Jesse comes from is much benighted than the one Derek comes from , perhaps as a result of either Derek ’s actions , or Cameron ’s . We know that Jesse ’s future is – at least partly – one Derek helped to make , because Jesse does n’t cognise “ Billy Wisher , ” aka Andy Goode , the guy whom Derek killed in 2007 . In Jesse ’s timeline , John Connor ’s resistance is heavily dependant on scrubbed Terminators , to the point where there ’s “ metal everywhere these day . Connor ’s beget one in every major base . ” Sometimes the scrubbed Terminators go incorrect and obliterate people . And the terminator seem to be running Connor ’s warfare effort to a enceinte extent , keep arcanum from Connor ’s human lieutenant . Skynet ’s human factor ( like Charles Fisher ) commonly torture homo , like Derek Reese . And there seems to be another “ faction ” of Terminators , which are n’t on Skynet ’s side but also are n’t on the humanity ’ . Jesse wo n’t say when her Judgment Day happens , but it ’s implied to be earlier than April 2011 , because Jesse is sure it ca n’t be prevent .

10 ) In Terminator Salvation , it ’s 2018 , and somehow Skynet is already make grow the T-800 , which is n’t supposed to exist until 2029 . And in the trailer , John Connor says “ This is not the time to come my female parent warn me about . Something has change ” ) harmonise to John Connor , Skynet ’s licking is even less sure than ever in this new altered timeline : “ I do n’t know if we can win this warfare . ” It ’s not clear what ’s change the timeline from the T2 translation , but hopefully the film will explain a fleck . We meet Marcus Wright , an advanced model of Terminator who has a great degree of ego - awareness and believe he ’s human until he sees his own metal soundbox . Marcus has the memories ( and visual aspect , presumably ) of a human who was executed in 2003 , and that ’s his last retentiveness before he turns up in 2018 . ( hearsay has it Marcus ’ physical structure is donated , after his death , to something call “ Project Angel , ” which twist him into a quasi - Terminator . ) It ’s implied that Marcus ’ reaching has something to do with change the timeline . Judgment Day : still July 24 , 2004 , since this moving-picture show follows on from Terminator 3 .

So we indicate this list to Josh Friedman , producer and creator of Terminator : The Sarah Connor Chronicles , and here ’s what he had to say :

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Jesus Christ . I want to fuddle whatever you ’re fuddle . Obviously ( or maybe not obviously but it should be said ) TSCC never set about to mesh with the movies , possibly in the smell of T/1/2 but sure not T/3/4 . We ’ve gone off the worldly reservation recently but to some degree that IS canyon : almost all expressions of the franchise have massaged dates / age to their convenience , some more than others . The most controversial estimate you have in here is the first one : the “ pre - Kyle ” Johnfather . I conceive the Terminator mythology supports that construct but many die hards just embrace the loop - ness of John sending back his dad to knock up his mom . Of naturally , a pre - Kyle Johnfather calls into dubiousness genetic differences in the two Johns and whether or not Sarah ’s influence is the key to John v.2 . If you go with the pre - Kyle Johnfather hypothesis , the first John wield to become John Connor without her help .

Or did he ?

I ’ve mulled it over some more , and I still believe there has to be a timeline where someone other than Kyle Reese is John Connor ’s father . When The Terminator was a standalone motion-picture show , you could read it either way . Either there ’s a circular causality , where Kyle is “ always ” John Connor ’s father , or Kyle ’s meter travel creates a novel branch . But Terminator 2 pretty much establishes that time change of location always creates new branches , because there ’s no portion but what we make . And the James Scott Connors , with their friendly T-800 , are able to stop or at least delay Skynet . But of course of instruction , your mileage , even backwards and send on through meter , may variegate .

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