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Tom HollandandMartin Scorsesedon’t see eye to eye on superhero filmmaking.
Holland, who currently stars in Marvel and Sony’sSpider-Man: No Way Home,recently shared his thoughts on the Oscar-winning director’s critical assessments of the genre, disagreeing wholeheartedly in an interview withThe Hollywood Reporter. (Scorsese, 79, once infamously lambastedsuperhero movies as “not cinema” in his opinion.)
“You can ask Scorsese, ‘Would you want to make a Marvel movie?’ but he doesn’t know what it’s like because he’s never made one,” said Holland, 25, who has also starred in movies likeThe ImpossibleandThe Devil All the Time.
“I’ve made Marvel movies and I’ve also made movies that have been in the conversation in the world ofthe Oscars, and the only difference, really, is one is much more expensive than the other,” he continued. “But the way I break down the character, the way the director etches out the arc of the story and characters — it’s all the same, just done on a different scale. So I do think they’re real art.”
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Holland added that hisAvengerscostars would back him up.
“When you’re makingthesefilms, you know that good or bad, millions of people will see them,” he explained, “whereas when you’re making a small indie film, if it’s not very good no one will watch it, so it comes with different levels of pressure.”
“I mean, you can also askBenedict CumberbatchorRobert Downey Jr.orScarlett Johansson— people who have made the kinds of movies that are ‘Oscar-worthy’ and also made superhero movies — and they will tell you that they’re the same, just on a different scale.”
Adding in one more difference between the two types of movies, he joked, “and there’s less Spandex in ‘Oscar movies.’ "
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Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige also toldTHRin the interview that he hopes award-granting bodies like the Academy Awards realize the “artistry that goes into storytelling that connects with a wide range of people on a very emotional level” with popular blockbusters.
“I think both of these types of films deserve recognition,” he said. “It’s agoodthing when people are in a theater and they stand up and cheer. It’s agoodthing when people are wiping tears because they’re thinking back on their last 20 years of moviegoing and what it has meant to them. That, to me, is averygood thing — the sort of thing the Academy was founded, back in the day, to recognize.”
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Backin 2019, Scorsese opened up toEmpireabout his feelings on superhero movies dominating the box office. “Honestly, the closest I can think of them — as well made as they are, with actors doing the best they can under the circumstances — is theme parks,” he said at the time.
“It isn’t the cinema of human beings trying to convey emotional, psychological experiences to another human being,” he added.
A month later, Scorsese wrote anop-edforThe New York Timesfurther explaining and clarifying his standpoint.
source: people.com